I love these ballerina flats but if this is what they call wide, then my foot must be narrow lol. They are so so wide and I have a wide foot. They are cute and comfy but I literally have gaps on both sides of my foot, that is how wide they are. Length is fine, I am an 8 so sizing down won't work and these are not shoes you would normally wear socks with but final sale! lol I give a 4 because the sole of the show is wonderful as well. But so wide!