These are well made pants, as other reviewers said. I like the material, too. But, at 5"1' the crotch ends up nearer to my knees. I'd have to wear them under my chest to fit in the crotch. So if you have a looong torso, go for these. They are also baggy in the butt, but I don't think going down a size would have fixed the construction, for me, anyway. Usually, Addition Elle pants fit me very well, just not these.